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Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:26 pm
by Wags
JoeyBagODonuts1 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:28 pm It's like the Towson game all over again.
Thursday: led by 18, scored 19 in the 2nd, lost 65-60.
Today: led by 12, scored 18 in the 2nd, lost 60-55.

Shot 11/14 over the first 14:39
Finished 8/39 over the final 25:21

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:30 pm
by Flying Dutchmen
Mikey77 wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:03 pm This team is awful after a good start to the season. What the hell happened?
We don't run an offense. No real point guard. No size, rebounding issues.

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:32 pm
by Cards
Unfortunately, its getting easier and easier to lose interest in this team

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:33 pm
by Wags
7 minutes and again, no points (on only one shot) from Sanders. Is he really a part of the offense or even a main part of the rotation anymore? Doesn't seem like it.

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:10 pm
by triplec2195
Cards wrote: Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:32 pm Unfortunately, its getting easier and easier to lose interest in this team
Amen to that my thoughts exactly.

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:15 pm
by Wags
Eight straight games scoring under 67 points in regulation since the 80-67 win at Norfolk State:

Scored: 42, 63 (69 with OT), 56, 55, 61, 66, 60, 55
Average: 57.3 ppg (58.0 Including OT)
Record: 2-6

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:36 am
by triplec2195
Just a mention of Speedy and his post presser as we point out how offensively we are challenged. Speedy of course emphasized how this team hasn't played a full 40 minutes and needs to shoot with confidence. Stephen Gorchov says to Speedy you really need to find that 3rd scorer so Speedy replied THIRD we need to find that SECOND SCORER!! Not showing much praise for what Cruz has been not doing of late! Speaking volumes.

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:46 am
by RainDelay
Another crazy blown game, a tale of two halves... becoming the norm. We'll see if they can rebound this week with two at the Mack. Much needed.

Crazy thing is, as bad as that play was, they murdered KJ on that shot attempt so had he not stepped on the line he almost certainly would've had the chance to tie it with three free throws.

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 12:27 pm
by dutchPride86
triplec2195 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:36 am Stephen Gorchov says to Speedy you really need to find that 3rd scorer so Speedy replied THIRD we need to find that SECOND SCORER!! Not showing much praise for what Cruz has been not doing of late! Speaking volumes.
Over the last 4 games Cruz is shooting 29% from the field, with 11 made FG vs 15 turnovers, and he's missed HALF his FT attempts. No idea what happened to him.

Reading between the lines it sounds like there's a standard of extra work after practice that Speedy expects and these kids aren't putting in. He's harped on guys needing to get in the gym and get extra shots all year. At the same time, there needs to be more accountability from Speedy for the way his offensive sets and substitution patterns have fallen well short this year too. What a mess

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:55 pm
by cactus
They need to find a first scorer, to be honest. They don't have any guards that are in the rotation and shoot over 40% from the field.

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 2:25 pm
by Mikey77
What a mess is right. Everything out of sync.

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:05 pm
by stuball888
In the past, we've had the top players in the CAA we don't have anyone Close to a CAA player of the year
These elite players take over the game in the final for five minutes
We are not closing our games because we don't have someone That caliber

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:10 pm
by cactus
stuball888 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:05 pm In the past, we've had the top players in the CAA we don't have anyone Close to a CAA player of the year
These elite players take over the game in the final for five minutes
We are not closing our games because we don't have someone That caliber
if they do get another player like that, they'll be gone the following year.

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:56 pm
by Wags
cactus wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:10 pm
stuball888 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:05 pm In the past, we've had the top players in the CAA we don't have anyone Close to a CAA player of the year
These elite players take over the game in the final for five minutes
We are not closing our games because we don't have someone That caliber
if they do get another player like that, they'll be gone the following year.
This, and that's not the best way to build anyway. All of those CAA Players of the Year led to a lone CAA tournament title.

But if you change the approach, have more player movement, ball movement, more screens, more post-ups, make the defense work harder, and not try so often to just beat defenders off the dribble while teammates are stagnant, you can become greater than the sum of the parts and generate easier buckets and more offense instead of settling for tough 3s. They already have CAA championship-caliber defense. If they can just get another 8-10 points of offense with a different approach, they can look very different. They could be 4-2 or 5-1 instead of 2-4 right now had they already been able to do that (they lost three CAA games that their D kept them in by 6, 5, and 5 because they couldn't get another few buckets or so).

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:18 pm
by triplec2195
Actually the year we won the championship 2020 we didn’t have the player of the year although Buie should have won it. I like the reference the whole can be greater than the sum of the parts.

Re: MBB Game 19 @Drexel Jan 20 (Mon) 3 PM

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:31 pm
by Cards
Wags wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 6:56 pm
cactus wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:10 pm
stuball888 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:05 pm In the past, we've had the top players in the CAA we don't have anyone Close to a CAA player of the year
These elite players take over the game in the final for five minutes
We are not closing our games because we don't have someone That caliber
if they do get another player like that, they'll be gone the following year.
This, and that's not the best way to build anyway. All of those CAA Players of the Year led to a lone CAA tournament title.

But if you change the approach, have more player movement, ball movement, more screens, more post-ups, make the defense work harder, and not try so often to just beat defenders off the dribble while teammates are stagnant, you can become greater than the sum of the parts and generate easier buckets and more offense instead of settling for tough 3s. They already have CAA championship-caliber defense. If they can just get another 8-10 points of offense with a different approach, they can look very different. They could be 4-2 or 5-1 instead of 2-4 right now had they already been able to do that (they lost three CAA games that their D kept them in by 6, 5, and 5 because they couldn't get another few buckets or so).
I think we on the board all see "movement" as the issue (seems like many of us keep pointing it out)......don't know why the staff doesn't see it as well!
Seems like when the team has good spurts (10 minutes or even a half) it's always during a period when we have movement. But it never lasts!!!!!! With movement, not only do we get better shots, but the better shots typically result in better shooting percentage, as well.