NCAA 2024 MBB Transfer Portal

[ZMAN3]

Call me naive or too old school but I'd never transfer to a rival. I'd feel like a traitor. Tough to face my former coach ( IF he's still there) and teammates. A rat deserting the ship. I guess I would consider following him somewhere as he would have recruited me and the incoming coach might not want me or fit his style.
I hope we get some good players.

[Jojogunne]

Time was you would have to sit out TWO years if you transferred within conference.

[Wags]

Call me naive or too old school but I'd never transfer to a rival. I'd feel like a traitor. Tough to face my former coach ( IF he's still there) and teammates. A rat deserting the ship. I guess I would consider following him somewhere as he would have recruited me and the incoming coach might not want me or fit his style.
I hope we get some good players.

Totally get it. It may be considered old school but it was more fun. We're in a different world now. NBA rivals used to despise each other. Today, they're all friends, hugging before and after games. There isn't that same feeling between rivals in college either. It's basically an organized form of pick-up ball at the park now. You put together who you put together briefly, try to win, and then you quickly forget about that and put together the next pick-up team.

[Wags]

Campbell's Colby Duggan, who was 1st team all-conference, just committed to Charleston. This is seriously getting out of hand

Exactly. And we are stuck with D2 players lol. We should’ve taken advantage of the good teams we had the prior 5-6 years before this season. Now we are at the bottom looking up. Hofstra doesn’t care about athletics.

They have money as well. Just look at their endowment compared to the other schools like Charleston and Wilmington. We blow them out of the water. Why would we let this happen to our athletics program.

You made me look it up:

As of the end of the 2023 fiscal year, the University of North Carolina Wilmington (UNCW) endowment was valued at approximately $154.1 million.

The College of Charleston's endowment, managed by the College of Charleston Foundation, was valued at approximately $145 million as of October 15, 2024, with a significant increase of $73 million since 2015.

Hofstra University's endowment exceeded $884 million in 2024, a 12% increase from the previous year, according to the National Association of College and University Business Officers and the Commonfund Institute. Athletics can't get more of a chunk of that?

[triplec2195]

Campbell's Colby Duggan, who was 1st team all-conference, just committed to Charleston. This is seriously getting out of hand

Exactly. And we are stuck with D2 players lol. We should’ve taken advantage of the good teams we had the prior 5-6 years before this season. Now we are at the bottom looking up. Hofstra doesn’t care about athletics.

They have money as well. Just look at their endowment compared to the other schools like Charleston and Wilmington. We blow them out of the water. Why would we let this happen to our athletics program.

You made me look it up:

As of the end of the 2023 fiscal year, the University of North Carolina Wilmington (UNCW) endowment was valued at approximately $154.1 million.

The College of Charleston's endowment, managed by the College of Charleston Foundation, was valued at approximately $145 million as of October 15, 2024, with a significant increase of $73 million since 2015.

Hofstra University's endowment exceeded $884 million in 2024, a 12% increase from the previous year, according to the National Association of College and University Business Officers and the Commonfund Institute. Athletics can't get more of a chunk of that?

I had raised this numerous posts ago don't remember what thread but I believe our endowment is earmarked mainly for educational purposes. I asked why can't some of this trickle into our sports programs?? Now its being brought up again so does someone have an answer to this question. It could solve a lot of problems. There's a correlation to successful college sports programs and student enrollment.

[Pbdutch]

Hofstra has money so start spending it on athletics. It’s not that difficult. We need to do whatever we can to become a basketball school and jump ship to the A10. The CAA is totally washed at this point and if we don’t do something quickly Wilmington and Charleston are going to leave soon before us.

We are running out of time

[HUSID74]

Hofstra has money so start spending it on athletics. It’s not that difficult. We need to do whatever we can to become a basketball school and jump ship to the A10. The CAA is totally washed at this point and if we don’t do something quickly Wilmington and Charleston are going to leave soon before us.

We are running out of time

Endowmwnts are not for operating expenses...schools will not deplete their endowmwnts to cover expenses. Just shows that Hofstra has a lot of wealthy backers who COULD support sports.

[Wags]

Wags, I don't think that will happen. The biggest schools will take that suggestion to court.
It's a very great area because something like this hasn't been done before, but think of it as a private company going and poaching from one of their competitors and offering more money for them to come to them unless that company has a do not compete clause for their employees then the poached company has no claim even do not compete. Clauses have been up in front of courts and they've been deemed illegal in some states.

That can all be solved with a CBA and contracts that include buyouts. It doesn't have to be complicated and end up in the courts. They just need to allow players to unionize and have contracts that will allow for poached schools to be compensated by the poachers. We are likely headed there anyway, so why wait? They should start the process of collectively bargaining now.

[cactus]

compensation is not going to happen. do not competes are generally unenforceable in court. and the ftc tried to ban them completely last year. pretty easy argument that restricting transfer would cause an undue hardship on the athlete. no standing power for the smaller schools here.

[dutchPride86]

So here's the first transfer I've seen who's reportedly taking a visit here... Josh Reaves, 6'4 sr guard from UIC. Only appeared in 16 games and did next to nothing there this past season, but was ok as a starter for Mt St Mary's in 23-24. Career 37% 3pt shooter but under 40% FG overall. Seems a lot like the D2 kid we just signed in that regard as an all or nothing 3pt shooter with decent size for a mid major guard.

His 4 visits are to 3 America East schools and us. Do with that what you will...

https://x.com/ThePortalReport/status/19 ... eODTQ&s=19

[Wags]

compensation is not going to happen. do not competes are generally unenforceable in court. and the ftc tried to ban them completely last year. pretty easy argument that restricting transfer would cause an undue hardship on the athlete. no standing power for the smaller schools here.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... e-likeness

Note these paragraphs in the article:

A federal judge is nearing a decision on the NCAA's $2.8 billion antitrust settlement -- a deal that was supposed to dampen a frenzy of litigation surrounding athletes' demands to share in the profits generated by college sports. Instead, experts say, the contracts now being signed by athletes might actually strengthen a line of attack in court: that these are de facto employment contracts, and if college athletes are employees, they should have collective bargaining rights.

The contracts "cross those red lines very clearly," said Michael LeRoy, a law professor at the University of Illinois who has researched employment law in the context of college sports for more than a decade. "It's employment on its face. There's no masking it."

[Pbdutch]

So here's the first transfer I've seen who's reportedly taking a visit here... Josh Reaves, 6'4 sr guard from UIC. Only appeared in 16 games and did next to nothing there this past season, but was ok as a starter for Mt St Mary's in 23-24. Career 37% 3pt shooter but under 40% FG overall. Seems a lot like the D2 kid we just signed in that regard as an all or nothing 3pt shooter with decent size for a mid major guard.

His 4 visits are to 3 America East schools and us. Do with that what you will...

https://x.com/ThePortalReport/status/19 ... eODTQ&s=19

Probably a reason why only America East schools and us are looking at him. Probably not that good

[cactus]

compensation is not going to happen. do not competes are generally unenforceable in court. and the ftc tried to ban them completely last year. pretty easy argument that restricting transfer would cause an undue hardship on the athlete. no standing power for the smaller schools here.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... e-likeness

Note these paragraphs in the article:

A federal judge is nearing a decision on the NCAA's $2.8 billion antitrust settlement -- a deal that was supposed to dampen a frenzy of litigation surrounding athletes' demands to share in the profits generated by college sports. Instead, experts say, the contracts now being signed by athletes might actually strengthen a line of attack in court: that these are de facto employment contracts, and if college athletes are employees, they should have collective bargaining rights.

The contracts "cross those red lines very clearly," said Michael LeRoy, a law professor at the University of Illinois who has researched employment law in the context of college sports for more than a decade. "It's employment on its face. There's no masking it."

if a player signs a NIL contract that requires a buyout, that's a different story, regardless of it being deemed employment. are mid-majors offering enough in NIL money to have leverage to get a represented player to agree to that language? probably not.

[Wags]

compensation is not going to happen. do not competes are generally unenforceable in court. and the ftc tried to ban them completely last year. pretty easy argument that restricting transfer would cause an undue hardship on the athlete. no standing power for the smaller schools here.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... e-likeness

Note these paragraphs in the article:

A federal judge is nearing a decision on the NCAA's $2.8 billion antitrust settlement -- a deal that was supposed to dampen a frenzy of litigation surrounding athletes' demands to share in the profits generated by college sports. Instead, experts say, the contracts now being signed by athletes might actually strengthen a line of attack in court: that these are de facto employment contracts, and if college athletes are employees, they should have collective bargaining rights.

The contracts "cross those red lines very clearly," said Michael LeRoy, a law professor at the University of Illinois who has researched employment law in the context of college sports for more than a decade. "It's employment on its face. There's no masking it."

if a player signs a NIL contract that requires a buyout, that's a different story

I believe that's where we're headed.

are mid-majors offering enough in NIL money to have leverage to get a represented player to agree to that language? probably not.

Mid-majors just need to be compensated through contract buyouts so even if they still lose some players, they can bank enough money to keep others.

[stuball888]

Does anyone know when the transfer portal closes?

[The Shadow]

The transfer portal closes April 24th.

[HUSID74]

Does anyone know when the transfer portal closes?

Not soon enough! As of Friday there were 1868 players in the Portal!

[daHUPride]

Does anyone know when the transfer portal closes?

Not soon enough! As of Friday there were 1868 players in the Portal!

LOL

so true - this has become one of the top stupid things in (college) sports.

it used to be a fun time - when we could all birddog as if we were scouting and recruiting a nice player or two to complete our roster - now it's about replenishing an entire roster - and seems like us - the mid-majors have to just wait and see - what scraps are left over from dinner table of the bigger conference(s) - don't like it at all

[Jojogunne]

Next thing you know, schools will be trading players.

[Wags]

The transfer portal closes April 24th.

April 22 is the last day.