MBB Recruits 2020

[triplec2195]

So the feeling here is that this is incorrect info.??

[cactus]

jamahri harvey, pg out of north carolina, posted today that he has Hofstra in his final 4... also has uncw and jmu in there

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[triplec2195]

It's getting crazy out there so we could be signing another PG AND AS FAR AS ANYONE KNOWS WE DON'T HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP to offer?? I mean based on the Newsday article does this validate it?? Does it mean that our PG is transferring? BTW this kid Harvey sounds very familiar did we offer him last year? He's a H.S. player who went to a prep school right? Moravian prep and is a 2020 graduating senior. I'm answering my own questions but he's listed as a 6'5 SG not a PG ON V/C that is???

[triplec2195]

OK I now see Harvey as our recruit but under SG offers. What I read about him is that he was more of a SG but has been working out as a PG to increase his chances at the D-1 level in terms of scholarship offers. I guess you could legitimately call him a combo guard and his videos on you tube look real good.

[Captain]

Harvey took an unofficial visit to HU last fall.
Belton and Harvey (both from Moravian) both have offers from us and Southern Miss. Maybe they are good buds.
As currently configured Belton is Southern Miss' only recruited 5. They like us have plenty of guards.
Southern Miss was 9-22 this past season with a new coach and a young team.

[triplec2195]

Harvey took an unofficial visit to HU last fall.
Belton and Harvey (both from Moravian) both have offers from us and Southern Miss. Maybe they are good buds.
As currently configured Belton is Southern Miss' only recruited 5. They like us have plenty of guards.
Southern Miss was 9-22 this past season with a new coach and a young team.

Does it make any sense to be recruiting another guard? I just feel that there are things going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy too that would make this move a lot clearer and of course all day we would love to get Belton but where would he fit in the great scheme of things. A lot of questions and very few answers right now. What gives here???

[Polito]

tc... lol you are cracking me up, love the passion!

trust me - the numbers will work out. There will be more movement, and opportunity to bring on more talent. This program needs to reel it in and take full advantage of the at least being known for making the dance finally. Some that are on the roster will be processed out nearly each year, this one the same, that's just how it works.

Maybe Silverio is not coming back, maybe ST, who knows exactly right now - but you can bet that there will be upgrading as they work to finish this class.

Harvey is a very good baller, HU been on him a LONG time, back when recruiting CB. Longer than any of the other top 3 basically - UNCW did offer under both staffs though. CB's prep school, so the connection is strong. He's not a PG, a SG or CG all the way - would say TC w/a better handle. Plays with high energy, attacks, big game / big play player, loves the pressure moments, scores in bunches from deep, rebounds well, and even plays D. State champ this yr for MP, and has a few awards under his belt in other high end tourneys.

Would think HU has a very strong case here, def put full effort in, whether CB is in his ear, and in what way, may make a big diff, as would whether he wants immediate heavy PT or is looking to develop into the role - def don't want to see this kid in another CAA uni - if he goes to the W, I'd be more concerned than JMU. Southern Miss has an assistant w/some connections, prob keeping them in the boat.

Belton I'm so-so on. But if they come together as a package, would take all day.

[Jojogunne]

I was looking at some videos of Harvey today, but the guy who caught my eye was #20 -- Belton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwfh_L01oo

I wouldn't mind having him on the roster for four years.

[triplec2195]

I was looking at some videos of Harvey today, but the guy who caught my eye was #20 -- Belton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwfh_L01oo

I wouldn't mind having him on the roster for four years.

Here's my takeaway from this video; This kid is BIG and INTIMIDATING however in the video it appears that he's playing and dominating down low against kids that are much smaller. He doesn't have strong ball handling skills when he puts the ball on the floor and just seems a tad slow. I don't think he's a super athletic kid and probably hasn't been playing basketball for a really long time. He's for sure a work in progress and has a lot of upside but far from being there. Lets be honest if he was a polished 6'10 kid he would have committed a long time ago to a P-5 school. I'm saying all this based on my observations of this video I don't know anything about his background other then the fact that he's trying to raise his stock value by playing for a prominent prep school. I do however feel he could be a good fit in our program playing behind Kante and Schutte and being ready when the time comes. I think he works his butt off in his freshman year maybe even red-shirts the year and comes in as a red-shirt freshman next year and gets playing time. I somehow remember a kid named Andre Walker who was a three + star rated kid by some services and never panned out here. Andre doesn't have the body this kid has but did have some skills. Am I out of order here or do others agree that he's a potential diamond in the rough that needs time to develop his game to the D1 level.

[cactus]

I was looking at some videos of Harvey today, but the guy who caught my eye was #20 -- Belton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwfh_L01oo

I wouldn't mind having him on the roster for four years.

Here's my takeaway from this video; This kid is BIG and INTIMIDATING however in the video it appears that he's playing and dominating down low against kids that are much smaller. He doesn't have strong ball handling skills when he puts the ball on the floor and just seems a tad slow. I don't think he's a super athletic kid and probably hasn't been playing basketball for a really long time. He's for sure a work in progress and has a lot of upside but far from being there. Lets be honest if he was a polished 6'10 kid he would have committed a long time ago to a P-5 school. I'm saying all this based on my observations of this video I don't know anything about his background other then the fact that he's trying to raise his stock value by playing for a prominent prep school. I do however feel he could be a good fit in our program playing behind Kante and Schutte and being ready when the time comes. I think he works his butt off in his freshman year maybe even red-shirts the year and comes in as a red-shirt freshman next year and gets playing time. I somehow remember a kid named Andre Walker who was a three + star rated kid by some services and never panned out here. Andre doesn't have the body this kid has but did have some skills. Am I out of order here or do others agree that he's a potential diamond in the rough that needs time to develop his game to the D1 level.

he's been an intriguing guy and mentioned a few times previously in this thread. If he needs development time he'll get it here and would be clear starter by junior year. Still need a spot to open though.

[triplec2195]

Quote; Polito: Some that are on the roster will be processed out nearly each year, this one the same, that's just how it works.

I don't want to sound naive here and can read between the lines but are you inferring that kids are asked to leave the program almost tantamount to losing their scholarships here or are they kind of told you won't be getting much playing time it's in your best interest to transfer to a school where you will get some playing time. I'm hoping its the latter and this is all done in a very discreet/professional way.

[cactus]

Quote; Polito: Some that are on the roster will be processed out nearly each year, this one the same, that's just how it works.

I don't want to sound naive here and can read between the lines but are you inferring that kids are asked to leave the program almost tantamount to losing their scholarships here or are they kind of told you won't be getting much playing time it's in your best interest to transfer to a school where you will get some playing time. I'm hoping its the latter and this is all done in a very discreet/professional way.

The scholarships are not guaranteed year to year; however, if it would reflect very poorly on the program and hurt future recruitment if it wasn't handled like you suggest.

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[triplec2195]

Yes cactus I'm sure we're trying to do what's best for the student athletes but at the same time need to also be doing what is in the best interest of the program. This program has been run with a lot of integrity since Joe took over the reins.

[Jojogunne]

I was looking at some videos of Harvey today, but the guy who caught my eye was #20 -- Belton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYwfh_L01oo

I wouldn't mind having him on the roster for four years.

Here's my takeaway from this video; This kid is BIG and INTIMIDATING however in the video it appears that he's playing and dominating down low against kids that are much smaller. He doesn't have strong ball handling skills when he puts the ball on the floor and just seems a tad slow. I don't think he's a super athletic kid and probably hasn't been playing basketball for a really long time. He's for sure a work in progress and has a lot of upside but far from being there. Lets be honest if he was a polished 6'10 kid he would have committed a long time ago to a P-5 school. I'm saying all this based on my observations of this video I don't know anything about his background other then the fact that he's trying to raise his stock value by playing for a prominent prep school. I do however feel he could be a good fit in our program playing behind Kante and Schutte and being ready when the time comes. I think he works his butt off in his freshman year maybe even red-shirts the year and comes in as a red-shirt freshman next year and gets playing time. I somehow remember a kid named Andre Walker who was a three + star rated kid by some services and never panned out here. Andre doesn't have the body this kid has but did have some skills. Am I out of order here or do others agree that he's a potential diamond in the rough that needs time to develop his game to the D1 level.

he's been an intriguing guy and mentioned a few times previously in this thread. If he needs development time he'll get it here and would be clear starter by junior year. Still need a spot to open though.

Agree with all you say. Worth taking a flyer. Redshirt and coach him up. You can't teach size and strength. We've had worse players on our roster.

[Polito]

Welp, won't be Belton, just committed to Southern Miss - I wonder if this will impact Harvey's decision... they are in the top 4. Kids don't actually go in tandem from the same team all that often, although it is happening on this Moravian team with 2 of the starters to NC State.

Prob depends on what he wants his first yr to be like. If he wants immediate PT / a big yr 1 role, that's not here. If he wants to develop his game to the max, and be a go-to starting yr 2, HU has proven their value there.

As far as bigs, not sure where HU will go next. Guessing Xfer or Juco we don't know about yet.

[Captain]

Can't blame Belton for choosing Southern Miss. He will come in with no competition at the 5 position. Not the case with us.

If it's between Southern Miss and us for HARVEY[, both have a slew of returning guards but we have more Seniors. (2 versus 0)
As for the other 2 CAA teams, JMU and UNCW, both are new coach situations. Madison is desperate for players with a number of defections but UNCW has a decent number of returning guards. So if he wants a guarantee of a real shot atimmediate playing time, JMU might be the easiest option.

[Polito]

I don't really consider JMU a real threat here. Just my thought. UNCW definitely. They are focusing in state hard core, and they have the pedigree to do it. We'll see what this new staff is made of... as many know, they are a good staff away from being an issue again. It's been a pleasure not worrying about them, would like to keep it that way!

I guess South Miss could be something if he wants to go in tandem. But I would think it's HU and the W at the top.

Also, dug up a few things on Bethea just for kicks - haven't spent much time on him, but def an exciting commit - NJ has a lot of P5 talent this year, and he's up there w/the top group - big strong guard, seems to be a workhorse on both ends of the floor:

Montclair was a top 10 team in NJ this year.

The Lions are the top seed in the Essex County Tournament and rely on Bethea to run the offense. The Hofstra commit can takeover a game offensively as his 40-point performance against Montclair can attest. Bethea is an elite rebounder for the guard position and knows how to use his body around the basket. The Lions have a solid junior duo in Amar'e Marshall and Jayden Brown, but Bethea is the one who runs Montclair Immaculate's offense.

Zion Bethea has been the heartbeat of Montclair Immaculate all season long and that has not changed in the tournament. He finished with 20 points and seven rebounds in both the quarterfinal matchup against Payne Tech and the semis against East Orange. Bethea is averaging 17.5 points per game as a senior. He is a capable shooter but thrives at getting to the rim and the free throw line. Bethea has not been alone during Montclair Immaculate's run to the finals.

Third Team All-State
The steady Bethea helped guide the Lions to a 61-26 record over the last three seasons by providing a consistent lift as a scorer, rebounder and defender. He averaged 14.1 points as a junior and 17 points, 7.7 rebounds, 2.2 assists and 1.9 steals this past season. Bethea was outstanding during the Essex County Tournament by averaging 18.7 points and 9.2 rebounds to guide the Lions to their first championship. The Hofstra commit finished his career with four consecutive double-doubles and 1,503 points.

SECOND TEAM ALL-NON-PUBLIC

Super Essex Conference American Division First Team

Super Essex Conference Player of the Year
Immaculate had 6-7 senior Zayon Marsh as its main protector of the paint, but otherwise lacked the kind of team-wide size it had flaunted in previous seasons. That seemed to be an issue early on as the Lions opened at 3-4 (though against some exceptionally talented competition), but soon became barely even an afterthought once the 6-3 Bethea became more active around the basket. Bethea had always been a solid scorer (14.1 ppg. as a junior), and that aspect of his game never wavered; the Hofstra commit scored at a 17.0 clip this past season. But Bethea became not only a useful rebounder, but a formidable board crasher with a knack for going a little higher and harder in the big contests. He averaged 7.7 rebounds and also 2.2 assists and 1.9 steals to steer Immaculate (21-7) to its first Essex County Tournament title after falling two straight years to East Side in the final. In that championship game, Bethea scored 21 points and grabbed 12 rebounds spur a 63-51 win over Seton Hall Prep. He closed out his career with 1,503 points.

[triplec2195]

Concerning Belton don't think this is a big loss for us IMO. A real work project keep an eye on his numbers at Southern Miss. this year. Thanks for all the info. on Bethea Polito so do we think he will be the next Eli type player with a lot of DOG in him. A slasher who at 6'3" likes to play with the big boys down low but can shoot the three if need be. We can just hope he grows a few inches before he gets here,lol. I like everything about him on paper so hopefully he brings that onto the court at the college level.

[triplec2195]

Can't blame Belton for choosing Southern Miss. He will come in with no competition at the 5 position. Not the case with us.

If it's between Southern Miss and us for HARVEY[, both have a slew of returning guards but we have more Seniors. (2 versus 0)
As for the other 2 CAA teams, JMU and UNCW, both are new coach situations. Madison is desperate for players with a number of defections but UNCW has a decent number of returning guards. So if he wants a guarantee of a real shot atimmediate playing time, JMU might be the easiest option.

So based on what I'm seeing on line he's ready to make his commitment so we certainly could be the front runner based on the strength of our program coming off another big year and IDK if he's going to get more playing time at Madison although Banks and Parker leaving could make that possible but playing the devil's advocate here what happens if he comes to us and says he wants to commit then what. We tell him we don't have any scholarships and he waited too long or behind the scenes the chess pieces are being moved and all of a sudden we have a scholarship. I feel in these situations where we're in the final 2 or 4 we often come up empty but I'm curious to see how this one pans out.It certainly appears that he has been sold on the CAA so I'm feeling like this is where his choice is.

[HofstraMathew]

https://twitter.com/thejayharvey14/stat ... 15744?s=20

https://twitter.com/thejayharvey14/stat ... 07842?s=20

Looks like he is making his decision on instagram live at 6pm tomorrow.