Justin Wright-Foreman's Legacy

[Wags]

Not that this is the time for it after today's loss, but updated through today:

[1] 2,513 (363 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (126 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (72 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,150 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (2 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (48 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (105 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (145 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

[Wags]

Not that this is the time for it after today's loss, but updated through today:

[1] 2,513 (363 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (126 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (72 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,150 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (2 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (48 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (105 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (145 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

If JWF ties Agudio by the end of the CAA tournament, it could mean Hofstra cuts the nets, because that would mean he'd average 25.2 ppg over the next five games (which would be right through the CAA Finals). If he does that, there's a decent chance Hofstra wins its next five games and is going dancing. Of course, HU's defense might have a lot more to say about that than whether JWF plays in five more CAA games this year, averaging 25.2 over those.

[EvanJ]

If we get the 1 seed and win a Quarterfinal against a team that played the previous night, we'll get at least 2 games after that with an NIT game if we lose the Semifinal. Losing the Final and going to the NIT would be 3 games after that. 2 games after that would mean 5 games that haven't happened yet.

[Wags]

If we get the 1 seed and win a Quarterfinal against a team that played the previous night, we'll get at least 2 games after that with an NIT game if we lose the Semifinal. Losing the Final and going to the NIT would be 3 games after that. 2 games after that would mean 5 games that haven't happened yet.

Yes, but my point is if they're going to play 5 more CAA games, and JWF catching Agudio by then, they have a great chance to cut the nets because that'll mean that A) The poor D of late will be improved, if they're in the finals and B) if JWF is catching Agdudio by then, he's going to average 25.2 over the next 5 CAA games. That combination would give them a pretty good chance to win it all. So, if JWF is playing in a CAA finals and catches Agudio in that game, it's a good bet they're going dancing.

[triplec2195]

Not that this is the time for it after today's loss, but updated through today:

[1] 2,513 (363 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (126 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (72 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,150 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (2 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (48 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (105 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (145 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

If JWF ties Agudio by the end of the CAA tournament, it could mean Hofstra cuts the nets, because that would mean he'd average 25.2 ppg over the next five games (which would be right through the CAA Finals). If he does that, there's a decent chance Hofstra wins its next five games and is going dancing. Of course, HU's defense might have a lot more to say about that than whether JWF plays in five more CAA games this year, averaging 25.2 over those.

We really need to be thinking team here and defensive effort rather then Justin passing Agudio. I think Justin would take 15-20 points a game if he knew he was going to be part of a team that wins the CAA championship. Of course passing Agudio would be great in terms of personal accomplishments. lETS NOT FORGET THAT IN EVERY GAME THAT WE LOST this year Justin scored over 25 points except for the NE loss where he only scored 15 and sat 8 minutes in the first half. The fact that he scores 25 + a game is really not a good indicator on whether we win or not more to the point might be how many points everyone else scores and how many points are we giving up. I'll settle for defense first and victories that happen because of our defensive play.

[Wags]

Not that this is the time for it after today's loss, but updated through today:

[1] 2,513 (363 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (126 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (72 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,150 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (2 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (48 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (105 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (145 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

If JWF ties Agudio by the end of the CAA tournament, it could mean Hofstra cuts the nets, because that would mean he'd average 25.2 ppg over the next five games (which would be right through the CAA Finals). If he does that, there's a decent chance Hofstra wins its next five games and is going dancing. Of course, HU's defense might have a lot more to say about that than whether JWF plays in five more CAA games this year, averaging 25.2 over those.

We really need to be thinking team here and defensive effort rather then Justin passing Agudio. I think Justin would take 15-20 points a game if he knew he was going to be part of a team that wins the CAA championship. Of course passing Agudio would be great in terms of personal accomplishments. lETS NOT FORGET THAT IN EVERY GAME THAT WE LOST this year Justin scored over 25 points except for the NE loss where he only scored 15 and sat 8 minutes in the first half. The fact that he scores 25 + a game is really not a good indicator on whether we win or not more to the point might be how many points everyone else scores and how many points are we giving up. I'll settle for defense first and victories that happen because of our defensive play.

Let's also not forget that he's now the nation's second-leading scorer (up one spot) at 26.6 ppg and Hofstra has a 23-6 record, so I'll take my chances with them winning if he scores at least 25. Obviously, catching Agudio doesn't matter, winning does. But if he's catching Agudio in the CAA finals, it means JWF and the team are playing the right way. JWF catching Agudio in that game would be an indicator of that. JWF would of course take 15-20 pts and win, but if he's held to that in the CAA tourney, they'll likely lose.

I don't understand what there isn't to get here. Five more CAA games means they're in the CAA Finals. So the point is if they're playing at least 5 more CAA games and he's catching Agudio, that means that both the defense will likely have once again been good enough (as before) and JWF is leading the way in scoring - which again, has been a recipe for success way more often than not this season (or they wouldn't be 23-6).

[HUSID74]

Great story on Justin and Speedy in today's Post.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/26/justin-wr ... ra-legend/

[Polito]

Really great story, and continues to show just how important Speedy is to this program, esp recruiting.

All good to follow both JWF's achievements and the teams, of course. And of course all agree from JWF on out/down, this is about the teams success first.

Will repeat daily, his true legacy and national relevance is about one thing only if he wants to be more than "just another HU great"...

--->> Climb ladder. Cut nets. Go dancing.

In that order Pretty simple really

I would GLADLY take Iona's number of NCAA tournament trips over any individual accolades, awards, etc. as no doubt would every HU player and coach ever.

[daHUPride]

Great story on Justin and Speedy in today's Post.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/26/justin-wr ... ra-legend/

I am going to miss that guy!!!

[HUSID74]

Great story on Justin and Speedy in today's Post.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/26/justin-wr ... ra-legend/

I am going to miss that guy!!!

Aren't we all! Let's hope he gives us at least six more games and an NCAA appearance!

[Wags]

Updated through tonight's win at Drexel:

[1] 2,513 (331 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (94 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (40 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,182 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (2 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (48 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (105 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (145 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

JWF ties a couple of great names - Pete Maravich and Wayman Tisdale - for 8th-place all-time, with his 83rd straight game in double figures.

[HofstraMathew]

Team first of course but wow did Justin climb this list fast. I feel like before the season it was just a dream that he could pass Agudio. Now if he just scores his average he will pass him in 4 games with us guaranteed to play at least 3 more.

And of course I agree with Polito; cut the nets down and the rest is just the cherry on top of his legacy.

[Wags]

Updated through tonight's win at Drexel:

[1] 2,513 (331 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (94 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (40 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,182 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (2 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (48 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (105 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (145 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

JWF ties a couple of great names - Pete Maravich and Wayman Tisdale - for 8th-place all-time, with his 83rd straight game in double figures.

Just for accuracy's sake, a correction on how much he's passed 5-8 by. Forgot to update those; only updated how close he was from 1-3 last night:

[1] 2,513 (331 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (94 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (40 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,182 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (34 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (80 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (137 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (177 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

[Wags]

JWF up to 64 in ESPN's top 100 NBA prospects. I think he was 98 on there not too long ago (?). Or that might've been a different list.

https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/sta ... 2421263360

[Wags]

Updated through tonight's win at Drexel:

[1] 2,513 (331 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (94 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (40 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,182 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (2 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (48 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (105 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (145 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

JWF ties a couple of great names - Pete Maravich and Wayman Tisdale - for 8th-place all-time, with his 83rd straight game in double figures.

Just for accuracy's sake, a correction on how much he's passed 5-8 by. Forgot to update those; only updated how close he was from 1-3 last night:

[1] 2,513 (331 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (94 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (40 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,182 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (34 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (80 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (137 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (177 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

So, I said "Just for accuracy's sake," and then there were typos on Speedy's points and how much JWF was ahead of Speedy by, off of that wrong number (oh, the irony!). Well, here's another update - an accurate one this time (I think!):

[1] 2,513 (331 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (94 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (40 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,182 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (34 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (80 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (137 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,015 (167 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points

[Wags]

Updated through the end of the regular season:

[1] 2,513 (303 to tie) Charles Jenkins (2007-11)
[2] 2,276 (66 to tie) Antoine Agudio (2004-08)
[3] 2,222 (12 to tie) Steve Nisenson (1962-65)
[4] 2,210 Justin Wright-Foreman (2015-19)
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[5] 2,148 (62 ahead) Loren Stokes (2003-07)
[6] 2,102 (108 ahead) Rich Laurel (1973-77)
[7] 2,045 (165 ahead) Bill Theiben (1953-56)
[8] 2,105 (205 ahead) Speedy Claxton (1996-2000)
[9] down are 1,818 and fewer points.

JWF also:

* Passed Pete Maravich and Wayman Tisdale for sole possession of 8th-place on the all-time NCAA list with his 84th straight game in double figures.

* Broke Agudio's single-season Hofstra 3-point record on this 3:
https://twitter.com/HofstraMBB/status/1 ... 7056910337

[EvanJ]

He's 12 points behind Devon Saddler, who has the most points by a CAA player not on Hofstra since we joined the CAA. He's 72 behind David Robinson's CAA season record of 903. Yesterday he passed Gary Neal's 2006-2007 season for the second highest scoring season in CAA history. In 2006-2007, he averaged 25.3 points, and he's the only CAA player in the 1990s, 2000s, or 2010s to average over 25 in a season, but JWF should exceed that. He's 77 behind Rich Laurel's team record of 907 in 1976-1977. He could break the CAA and Hofstra records in the same game.

[Polito]

Wow, this is great stuff Evan, thank you - I find all of those even bigger than HU's - this kid is truly making big time history. Special player, and special time in this program - just need to finish it right.

Noted a while back he was zeroing in on that 3 spot for HU - but having a legit chance at 2 is downright amazing considering he had basically no freshmen year.

Seeing a fire in the belly and eye of the tiger in him that have had me very excited to start the year, and now have me very very excited for the CAAT.

[Wags]

Wow, this is great stuff Evan, thank you - I find all of those even bigger than HU's - this kid is truly making big time history. Special player, and special time in this program - just need to finish it right.

Noted a while back he was zeroing in on that 3 spot for HU - but having a legit chance at 2 is downright amazing considering he had basically no freshmen year.

Seeing a fire in the belly and eye of the tiger in him that have had me very excited to start the year, and now have me very very excited for the CAAT.

Ditto, Evan. Those are some great marks to keep an eye on. Really underscores the special senior season he's having.

To me, his most impressive numbers this season are: 52.1% fg, 44.3% 3-pt fg and 85.8% ft. A lot of guys can score, but can they score efficiently? THAT'S what helps a team win. When you are a 50/40/90 player, you're a special and gifted scorer. So to not only average as many points as JWF has this year, but to be over 50, not only over 40 but mid-40s, and almost 86 (close enough to 90), you're having a very impressive season. And then throw in a career-high 4.1 rpg this season as well.

[EvanJ]

He's close to Jenkins' senior season in 2010-2011. JWF is averaging 4.2 more points and 3.5 more field goal attempts. JWF is shooting a little better and averaging more rebounds. Jenkins was better at assists (4.8 to 2.9), assists/turnovers (2.16 to 1.14), steals (1.7 to 0.8), and blocks (0.67 to 0.19). JWF isn't relied on for assists. Jenkins had more assists, but as a senior Brad Kelleher was 7th in the CAA (when there were 12 teams) at 3.3 assists with 2.21 assists/turnover, so Jenkins was not the only good passer.