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Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:14 am
by Cards
As I scanned the game stats last night I also noticed KW with no assists. My first reaction was hey, that's not good - my second reaction was "I wonder how long before Polito comments on this". And there it is :lol: :lol: :lol: !! However, I completely agree with you Polito, the kid needs to dish with scoring being a second priority. I will however, cut KW some slack in that this was simply the first scrimmage of the season, and his first scrimmage for HU. If this lack of dishing is still evident after the 4 Canada games, then I will be very concerned. The flip side is that DB played only 7 minutes but had 3 assists.

I see these 4 games as the guys simply getting used to playing together and implementing the coaches system (which hopefully includes very hardnosed defense). Watching that 5-7 minute clip of the game showed two defenders on ST and MR that looked like they topped out at maybe 6'4". So I think last nights game was more like a scrimmage (like when we played D2 Molloy). Maybe the game against the team that beat St Francis will be better.

Here's another potential concern - RG 3 for 8 at the FT line. I know its only one scrimmage, but this cannot happen again this year :roll:

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:19 pm
by Jojogunne
Who is KW? Can we use last names?

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:23 pm
by HUSID80
Also noticed that the St. Bonnie transfer played...does anyone know if transfers can play in these international games while sitting out? It would appear that that is the case.

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:44 pm
by stuball888
Jojo it's Ken Wormley our starting point guard

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:25 pm
by Jordan
I'm not so concerned with KW's 0 assists. The 15 points from him were nice to see, and I'm with Cards on this one. Scary to see, but it's his first ever go around with the team. Gotta cut him SOME slack. If this continues then it will be of much more concern for me.

What I am very frightened with though is Rokas's 3-8 at the line. He's gotta get it together. There was no excuses last year for this and there should be none this year. He is a Senior that was at one point the best rebounder in the country and STILL has tons of trouble making a free throw. C'mon. That 3-8 shows no improvement from last season and gives me no hope. Needs to show some improvement these next couple of games or else it'll be another LONG season at the line.

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:53 am
by BringBackFootball
Cards wrote:The flip side is that DB played only 7 minutes but had 3 assists.
You'll also see that he turned the ball over 3 times in those 7 minutes and picked up 2 quick fouls. Way too early to panic but if it's obvious to us that the PG position is the Achilles heel of this team, our conference opponents know it too and will game plan accordingly.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if by the time conference play rolls around that neither DB or KW claim the full time roll and both are used as situational pieces to a core guard core of JWF, Pemba and the Frosh J.Ray. Theres enough handle there to be effective and their shooting prowess is incredibly difficult to defend if all three are on the floor together... The trio was 6 of 10 from 3 pt range in that scrimmage in about 65 game minutes between the three.

Nice stat line from Angus. Hopefully he's the supplement to Gustas we needed. That Manta kid was 0-5 from three, that needs to stop, he doesn't need to be a stretch of the three guards above are on the floor.

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:18 am
by HofstraMathew
BringBackFootball wrote:
Cards wrote:The flip side is that DB played only 7 minutes but had 3 assists.
You'll also see that he turned the ball over 3 times in those 7 minutes and picked up 2 quick fouls. Way too early to panic but if it's obvious to us that the PG position is the Achilles heel of this team, our conference opponents know it too and will game plan accordingly.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if by the time conference play rolls around that neither DB or KW claim the full time roll and both are used as situational pieces to a core guard core of JWF, Pemba and the Frosh J.Ray. Theres enough handle there to be effective and their shooting prowess is incredibly difficult to defend if all three are on the floor together... The trio was 6 of 10 from 3 pt range in that scrimmage in about 65 game minutes between the three.

Nice stat line from Angus. Hopefully he's the supplement to Gustas we needed. That Manta kid was 0-5 from three, that needs to stop, he doesn't need to be a stretch of the three guards above are on the floor.
If you look at the first half stats 2 of those turnovers, 2 of those assists and both fouls all happened in the first half in 2 minutes of play. So probably some weird couple plays or something. I am sure Buie will be fine; he seemed to play the point well last year before he got hurt. And he is definitely a pass first point guard.

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:44 am
by HUSID80
The "Manta Kid" is a freshman from Serbia. I saw him in his first day of practice and he will be a player. Just needs to calm down and settle into his role.
Staff believes that he is one of the team's top five...Great potential!

MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:50 am
by Pride97
Jordan wrote: That 3-8 shows no improvement from last season and gives me no hope. Needs to show some improvement these next couple of games or else it'll be another LONG season at the line.
Sadly that is an improvement for Rok. That may end up being as big an Achilles heel as the PG situation. Guard play will only get them so far - need an inside presence who can contribute offensively to open up the floor.


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Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:13 pm
by ProudofPride
Tonight's opponent, Bishop's University played 2 D1 opponents before us. They lost to Canisius on 8/20 81-60, and lost to Northeastern on 8/26 77-61. Competition might be slightly better than UQAM on Tuesday night, but if anything this game is a good comparison to teams we should be at a similar level, obviously Northeastern more so than Canisius.

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:06 pm
by Cards
Anyone hear anything regarding video? facebook or other outlet?

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:10 pm
by ProudofPride
Cards wrote:Anyone hear anything regarding video? facebook or other outlet?

Facebook live if wifi works, which is great because Facebook video is saved and can be watched later if you're not able to watch the whole game tonight. that's not the case with Periscope. https://twitter.com/HofstraMBB/status/9 ... 4269670400

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:35 pm
by ProudofPride
The cheering section tonight includes the athletic trainer, bus driver, Speedy's girlfriend, the team's academic advisor, and Lizanne Murphy. https://twitter.com/LizzieMurph/status/ ... 6985273344

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:38 pm
by dutchiedoright
Leading, 60 to 22 at halftime.

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:09 pm
by dutchiedoright
85 to 37 beginning of 4th quarter

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:19 pm
by ProudofPride
Final score: 110-51 :o

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:03 pm
by cactus
ProudofPride wrote:Final score: 110-51 :o
Watched the video feed on facebook from the corner of the arena. Those 110 points were scored without Pemberton, Wright-Foreman, and Gustys playing.
Wormley had a much better game tonight but I think Buie has to get a lot of minutes, he looks like the only point guard on the roster.
And yes the competition is bad, but Radovic looks like a player. Trueheart has some talent too. Roster is deep this year if everyone is healthy. Haven't had multiple guys who can actually play the 4 on the team in quite a while.

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:28 am
by bobe13
I do not understand how anyone can see the players from tht video in the lower corner of the arena . Barely better than nothing.

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:56 pm
by ProudofPride
Here's a tweet with a handwritten box score of last night's game. Is anyone able to interpret anything other than who started and the scoring trends?
https://mobile.twitter.com/vcbballD1/st ... 1483384832

Re: MBB Trip to Canada

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:10 pm
by stuball888
Any updates on the game against Concordia