NCAA 2024 MBB Transfer Portal

[Jojogunne]

I agree with Zman. Dubar has played well closer to his NC home. Also, Pitino runs a tight ship, and Dubar's inconsistency may keep him on the bench.

Speaking of St. John's, former Iona PG Cruz Davis is now in the portal. He played only 26 minutes in 4 games for the Red Storm. Don't know what he would bring to us:

https://redstormsports.com/sports/mens- ... scruz/5104

[Wags]

This is a huge blow to the team next year no matter how you slice it. Was hoping Speedy could convince him to lead the team next year like he did with Thomas.
If Dubar goes to St. John's that will be even worse as it will make us look like little brothers, even though we probably are.
Welcome to the shitty new world of college basketball. You need to recruit a whole new team every year, the NCAA destroyed the NIT, now it is even hurting their Golden Goose, the NCAA Touranment, while allowing the Portal to open up right at the beginning of March Madness.
What will they do next?

So Hofstra is the JV along with a lot of other mid major schools for these P5 schools. Something totally wrong with that picture almost feels like small schools are getting bullied and their players are being poached without any kind of recourse. I can't believe that all of these smaller schools will just sit by complacently without trying to do something about this possibly legally.

You can't complain about the same system you're also benefitting from. How can Hofstra complain about Estrada and Dubar being poached when Estrada came from Oregon, Dubar from Iowa State, and Thomas from Sacred Heart? It seems that's the general attitude with many things today - when people win, everything's fine. But when they lose, "the system's rigged against us!"

[ZMAN3]

This is a huge blow to the team next year no matter how you slice it. Was hoping Speedy could convince him to lead the team next year like he did with Thomas.
If Dubar goes to St. John's that will be even worse as it will make us look like little brothers, even though we probably are.
Welcome to the shitty new world of college basketball. You need to recruit a whole new team every year, the NCAA destroyed the NIT, now it is even hurting their Golden Goose, the NCAA Touranment, while allowing the Portal to open up right at the beginning of March Madness.
What will they do next?

So Hofstra is the JV along with a lot of other mid major schools for these P5 schools. Something totally wrong with that picture almost feels like small schools are getting bullied and their players are being poached without any kind of recourse. I can't believe that all of these smaller schools will just sit by complacently without trying to do something about this possibly legally.

You can't complain about the same system you're also benefitting from. How can Hofstra complain about Estrada and Dubar being poached when Estrada came from Oregon, Dubar from Iowa State, and Thomas from Sacred Heart? It seems that's the general attitude with many things today - when people win, everything's fine. But when they lose, "the system's rigged against us!"

I don't look at these situations the same - Players transfer "down" for more playing time, being closer to home, coach being fired or hired by a "higher" program. Players transferring "up" now are MOSTLY going for the $$$ (although they might want to try their ability against better competition). I'm confident Estrada and Dubar went for the bucks!

[dutchPride86]

Jyare Davis just hit the portal. Amari Williams already gone too. And then add in guys like McKinnon, Kyrese Mullen from Hampton, and Trey Moss from w&m went in today too. It's nearly impossible to expect a conference like the CAA to keep any of its most talented players anymore when $$$ is involved. Hell I think Iona is up to 7 kids in the portal already.

The challenge, and if you want to talk fairness, is when a school like Charleston seemingly has more money to spend on players than the rest of the conference combined. Geno Ford admitted he lost Policelli there because Policelli couldn't turn down the opportunity to get paid. And guys like Brzovic and Smith don't leave there

Ideally years down the road almost feels like there needs to be a salary cap like structure by conference to level the playing field. Otherwise if a school like Charleston doesn't leave for the a10, we'll be looking at a Gonzaga type situation where who wins these mid major leagues comes down to nothing more than money.

And yes talking salary cap and college athletics in the same sentence sucks, but the cat is out of the bag and it's hard to argue against allowing kids to get paid when there's a market for them

With Estrada and now Dubar Hofstra can set a real nice recruiting pitch to kids that we can get you paid by a power 5 school, the same way a Duke or Kentucky can tell an elite high school kid we'll get you straight to the NBA. Hofstra is going to have to fully lean into this approach to stay competitive, and it's up to Speedy to figure out how to translate the talent he brings in to more success in March

[HUSID80]

I agree with Zman. Dubar has played well closer to his NC home. Also, Pitino runs a tight ship, and Dubar's inconsistency may keep him on the bench.

Speaking of St. John's, former Iona PG Cruz Davis is now in the portal. He played only 26 minutes in 4 games for the Red Storm. Don't know what he would bring to us:

https://redstormsports.com/sports/mens- ... scruz/5104

He was red shirted due to injury.

[Wags]

I don't look at these situations the same - Players transfer "down" for more playing time, being closer to home, coach being fired or hired by a "higher" program. Players transferring "up" now are MOSTLY going for the $$$ (although they might want to try their ability against better competition). I'm confident Estrada and Dubar went for the bucks!

No argument there. They're definitely not the same in how the players may arrive, but the RESULT is still the same and that's all that matters. Regardless of the scenarios, the bottom line is that Hofstra both loses out and benefits from increased player movement, both from bigger-time and smaller-time programs.

We can't act like Hofstra recruited and developed their stars only to have them leave. They got them from elsewhere, developed them, and then lost them elsewhere. And around we go. They'll probably continue to get others - from elsewhere - and lose those too. Same thing happens with coaches but people somehow understand that (no one here said, "the system is rigged against Hofstra!" when Wright left for Villanova). Same with the players now. You just hope you can achieve some program success while be used as the steppingstone in the meantime. Hofstra did that (to a large degree, even if not the ultimate goal) with Estrada, Dubar, and Thomas. Regardless of the circumstances that made those players move to and from Hofstra, that still happened, all within the same system that we're now crying foul against only after we lose out. No one was crying about it when that trio were racking up CAA awards though.

It does suck though from the standpoint that seeing homegrown recruits come in, grow and play their whole careers at your mid-major school and do some great thing in the process (like Speedy, Stokes, Agudio, Jenkins, JWF) is probably a thing of the past. It hurts fandom for a program. This is what I always warned about when I argued against paying college players even though I completely understood the validation for it. Even though they're still not getting paid directly, it has become the same thing - widespread college free agency and short-term players for hire. It's a shame but it was also inevitable.

[Jojogunne]

Maybe we should focus more on high school and prep recruits, and let the big-money schools woo the portal transfers.

[stuball888]

Jojo problem is that freshmen and preps may not be ready for D1 competition
the portal is a wuick fix by getting more mature players
For the most part the bigs we got from the transfers and portal have worked out for us
There will be plenty of players to choose from to mix in with incoming freshmen
Need a good balance of upper and lower classmen

[triplec2195]

Here's a post from Sidelines Hofstra fromX on some portal players we're recruiting; https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=0

[triplec2195]

Here's a post from Sidelines Hofstra fromX on some portal players we're recruiting; https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=0 We're obviously looking for post players!

[Wags]

With Estrada and now Dubar Hofstra can set a real nice recruiting pitch to kids that we can get you paid by a power 5 school, the same way a Duke or Kentucky can tell an elite high school kid we'll get you straight to the NBA. Hofstra is going to have to fully lean into this approach to stay competitive

Extra incentive to root for Estrada and Alabama in this year's NCAA tournament. The deeper the run for Alabama with Estrada being a good piece of it, and the more attention on them, the more Hofstra can sell the above to someone else.

[Wags]

Here's a post from Sidelines Hofstra fromX on some portal players we're recruiting; https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... li=1#gid=0

Hampton's Jerry Deng, with his size, athleticism, and production would be a nice get for HU. He was only a freshman last year. I'd be happy with him as a new big up front.

Sean Moore had a team-high 19 points (two short of Edey's game-high 21) in FDU's shocking upset over Purdue in last year's NCAAT.

[ZMAN3]

Does anyone know about the status of Wilmoth ? And is he eating ?

[dutchPride86]

Old friend Amar'e Marshall just went BACK into the portal. Reunion?

[Mikey77]

A player went from Tulsa to Colorado back to Tulsa a few years ago so its possible. Think his name was Jeriah Horne or something like that.

[EvanJ]

Ideally years down the road almost feels like there needs to be a salary cap like structure by conference to level the playing field. Otherwise if a school like Charleston doesn't leave for the a10, we'll be looking at a Gonzaga type situation where who wins these mid major leagues comes down to nothing more than money.

Saint Mary's won the regular season and West Coast Conference Tournament. They are too good to talk about Gonzaga like that.

A player went from Tulsa to Colorado back to Tulsa a few years ago so its possible. Think his name was Jeriah Horne or something like that.

Jaylen Fornes transferred from UNCW to Nicholls State to UNCW.

In addition to any money Charleston can pay, they average about 5,000 fans, have some games on Lowcountry CW meaning broadcast television, play well, and I am assuming are the most popular team in their city with no major pro teams or FBS Football. They must be one of the most popular teams in the bottom half of conferences.

[Wags]

Old friend Amar'e Marshall just went BACK into the portal. Reunion?

Would be funny if Dubar returned to Iowa State and Marshall returned to Hofstra.

[triplec2195]

Old friend Amar'e Marshall just went BACK into the portal. Reunion?

Would be funny if Dubar returned to Iowa State and Marshall returned to Hofstra.

I would be very happy to have Marshall come back here but it seems that ship has sailed. Why did he leave here in the first place where it certainly seemed apparent that he would/could have started this season and would have been the 4th scorer on this team that we so desperately needed.

[dutchPride86]

Look at this absurd list of schools that have reportedly reached out to Amari Williams. Hard to expect anyone of his, Dubar, Jyare Davis, Estrada, Timberlake, etc caliber to stay when these types of teams come calling


https://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/ ... Cksrw&s=19

[Jojogunne]

Williams has an agent?